The RavenCast: Abortion, Choice, and the Interdependence of Life

Show Notes:

Lindsey Paris-Lopez participated in the Women’s March on January 21st. It was one day after the Inauguration, and one day before the 44th anniversary of Roe versus Wade. Perhaps that’s why it was specifically a Women’s March, as well as a march opposed to the policies promised by the incoming Trump administration.

Some pro-life groups felt unwelcome. While no one was turned away from the march, some pro-choice people publicly expressed that pro-life groups were counterproductive to their message.

Lindsey has known what it feels like to be in both the pro-choice and pro-life camps. Although she believes that abortion is a tragedy and life begins at conception, she does not believe legislating against abortion is helpful. She explains how she navigated, and continues to navigate, her position.

Adam Ericksen points out that almost everyone, whether they describe themselves as pro-life or pro-choice, wants to see abortion reduced. He thinks this is an area where we should all be able to work together. Both sides care about the vulnerable. While pro-choice activists tend to see the vulnerability of the woman, pro-life activists see the vulnerability of the child. Adam hopes we can see both and work toward policies that support both lives. He points to the encouraging data saying abortions are down as education increases and birth control becomes more widely available. Attempts to limit education and birth control would almost certainly make abortion rates increase.

Mimetic Theory and Abortion

Mimetic theory teaches us that we are not individuals, but inter-dividuals. The idea of “viability” as a starting point for human life is misguided because we think of independence as what makes us human, but it’s the opposite. We are human because of our dependence – or our interdependence.

Recognizing our life-long need for each other should heighten our compassion for the dependent child in the womb and the woman in an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy.

When we recognize interdependence, rather than autonomy, as a (or the) fundamental characteristic of life, we need to change our approach to just about everything.

Reorienting our entire perspective to interdependence and compassion would change the dynamics of this debate. That should be the start and the culmination of dialogue concerning all matters of human life.

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2 replies
  1. Kim Rothwell
    Kim Rothwell says:

    Beautiful discussion. It made the think about how recognizing and emphasizing the responsibility involved in our interdependence could help us to craft a society that cares about life at all stages. This practice would require us all be more intentional in our relationships, more proactive at standing up for those who are oppressed, and it may impact how we approach sexual relationships.

    • Lindsey Paris-Lopez
      Lindsey Paris-Lopez says:

      Thank you so much, Kim. I certainly hope considering our interdependence would do all of those things! I deeply appreciate that you took the time to listen and comment.


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